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Mental Disorder? [Jan. 29th, 2005|08:30 pm]
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[orange_murse]
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Hello I'm new, i just joined. Anyways, i am currently working on a project about the APA's (American Psychiatric Association) removal of homosexuality as a mental disorder. Up until 1973, the reference book called the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)listed homosexuality as a mental disorder. As a young gay male, this frightens me. What if we still lived in a world where homosexuals were considered mentally disturbed? i think we have definitely come a long way since then. Well anyways, i want to find out what some of u think about this. How do u think the removal of homosexuality as a mental disorder has changed the world? Or what do u think society would be like if it were not removed?
I was also reading this web site that is put on by the Traditional Living Coalition, and they ask, "Has psychiatry really proven that homosexual behavior is normal?" As i read this i automatically asked WHAT IS NORMAL??!!!! I DONT THINK ANYONE CAN ANSWER THAT!!! so anyways, id really like to hear what people think about these subjects.
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[User Picture]From: pheonixrising13
2005-01-30 08:05 am (UTC)
Well, I think that although homosexually was removed from the list of mental disorders, there are still people who regard it that way and always will. That's not something that anyone can change for them.

But I do think it's good that society as a whole has gotten more educated on the issue. Such as work of psychologists to demonstrate that homosexuality seems to be prenatal rather than a choice, and studies on how having a gay parent doesn't affect a child's development.

I guess normal is what society defines it as. So if society accepts homosexuality, it'll become more "normal." Although I think we're getting there.
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[User Picture]From: orange_murse
2005-01-30 07:01 pm (UTC)
You bring up some good points. Thanx for ur input!
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[User Picture]From: fool4lovesbitch
2005-02-02 10:32 pm (UTC)
As a homosexual, I don't think of myself as a mental patient. The thought 'I should get mental help' never went through my head. What I think is that people are so hooked on their view of normal that they don't see beyond themselves
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[User Picture]From: arynnoctavia
2005-02-04 11:00 am (UTC)
well spoken. Almost poetic. I loved
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[User Picture]From: fool4lovesbitch
2005-02-05 10:32 pm (UTC)
Thanks I was actually really proud of that one it's unusual that anything that makes sense comes out of my mouth...err fingers...or whatever...Anyways, hoped what I said helped
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[User Picture]From: crowsensei108
2005-03-09 12:56 am (UTC)
As a strait (straight?) person who attends an art school in california, I'm moderatly sure that if I complained about gays and lesbians I would be lynched. Or simply sat on by my two lesbian friends untill my ribs caved in. But as for the rest of the country....

Well, people have always, always, always been afraid of the different, the wierd, the unusual, especialy when it would require a radical change in mindset. So instead of accepting a strange -and, to them, disturbing- new way of seeing the world, i.e, it's possible to have sex with your own gender, and for all you know there could be two guys/gals doin' it in the house right next to yours....It's so much easier to hate. But the good news is: everyone dies eventualy.

Take for instance, when Galileo discovered that the sun didn't revolve around the earth. As I recall, he died in a very unpleasent way, and people dusted their hands off and forgot about it. For a few generations. But some of the new people being born thought about it awhile more, and found that it was worth the scariness of the new idea to just have the new idea. And the best part of this was that all the close-minded old farts died. And then another generation was born that had even more people that were happy to think that there was a whole new cool solar system out there, and it worked a lot better than the old one. And now people laugh at you if you say the sun revolves around the earth.

So, now, thinking about people being gay (and horrible propaganda in children's cartoons that preach all those big, scary words like tolerance and diversity that are actualy commie plots to ruin their precious darlings's minds) is scary for a lot of people. Most people. Probably a lot of gay people out there too, who realy think they're messed up because they were unlucky enough to be born in arkansas or something. Both those people are going to die in, at most, four or five decades. And we'll still be alive. And there will be even more people with bigger views of the world, and they'll be the ones defining what's normal.

Sooo...yeah. End of speech. Three cheers for entropy!



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[User Picture]From: orange_murse
2005-03-13 06:51 pm (UTC)
WOW! THANX! You really put a lot of thought into what you said. What a great way of looking at the issue. It gives me lots of hope for the future.
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From: empusas
2005-03-15 03:26 am (UTC)
http://www.hrc.org/millionformarriage/index.shtml please you and the other members of the group come here and sign the petition supporting gay marriage. They can't deny our love any longer. Please tell everyone you know to sign the petition. We gotta make this happen!
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[User Picture]From: arsonade
2005-03-26 08:12 pm (UTC)

personally...

personally i would consider it an insult to be "normal" in this day and age, the logic behind the phycological problems stance is the same as (belive me i do not wish to offend anyone, ive just thought about this a bit and am giving, what i think is the real reason) say beastialiy, becasue back when this thory was first instated, there were so few homosexuals that would admit their sexuality that it could be considered by phycologysts to be insanity, as if the individual could not controll themselves. the problem is that some people have not gone any farther, i know people who think that homosexuals are insane, its really sick that people like that exist.

well tahts my 2 cents

Adam
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[User Picture]From: orange_murse
2005-03-27 12:48 am (UTC)

Re: personally...

theres definitely a lot of truth to what u say. Thanx Adam!
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[User Picture]From: eclaire4186
2005-06-19 03:56 am (UTC)
Well, when I took psych, we talked about "normal" as the ability to function within society. For example, a guy with obsessive compulsive disorder is not normal because he cannot function in society. His preoccupation with his particular obsession is all he can focus on, so he cannot go to work or have positive relationship with other people. So from that perspective, homosexuality cant be considered anything abnormal, because it doesn't prevent you from functioning or living a productive life in society. Its simply another character trait, not a hindrance to life.
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[User Picture]From: orange_murse
2005-06-20 05:15 am (UTC)
And u are absolutely right!
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[User Picture]From: mia_in_chains
2007-12-21 02:31 pm (UTC)
Well, yeah, the normality is very subjective. I think that people should mind their own business and stop focusing so much on those matters that don't really matter at all.

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